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http://blog.cleancoder.com/uncle-bob/2018/12/16/unoffended.html

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https://blog.discourse.org/2013/03/the-universal-rules-of-civilized-discourse/

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https://www.city-journal.org/

" City Journal Comment Policy

Topical and respectful comments are welcome. "

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https://www.tumblr.com/policy/en/community

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r/NeutralPolitics? Rules 1. Comment Rule 1: Discourteous or hostile to others.

Be courteous to other users. Name calling, demeaning, or otherwise being rude or hostile to another user will get your comment or submission removed. 2. Comment Rule 2: No sources.

Source your facts. If you're claiming something to be true, you need to back it up with a qualified source. 3. Comment Rule 3: No substantive content.

Be substantive. NeutralPolitics? is a serious discussion based subreddit. We do not allow bare expressions of opinion, low effort one-liner comments, jokes, memes, off topic replies, or pejorative name calling. 4. Comment Rule 4: Addressing person, not argument.

Address the arguments, not the person. The subject of your sentence should be "the evidence" or "this source" or some other noun directly related to the topic of conversation. "You" statements are suspect. 5. Post A: Doesn't ask a specific political question.

We do not allow overly broad questions, solicitations of pure opinion, surveys, requests to explain public opinion or media coverage, posts about other subreddits, or meta posts. 6. Post Rule B: Not neutrally framed.

The post must not be inflammatory, editorialized, leading towards a particular answer, a statement of opinion, or a request to critique your theory. 7. Post Rule C: Doesn't outline issue.

Give more than just a headline. Provide some background information. 8. Post Rule D: Doesn't provide sources.

Statements of fact must cite qualified sources. Nothing is "common knowledge." 9. Post E: Not a good starting point for discussion.

The purpose of this forum is to discuss issues. We do not allow polls, surveys or requests for fact checking. 10. Post Rule G: Request for speculation.

If the question cannot be answered with facts — which includes any that are phrased in the future tense (What will/would/could happen?) — then it's not appropriate for NeutralPolitics?.

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https://opensource.google/conduct/

" Community Guidelines

At Google, we recognize and celebrate the creativity and collaboration of open source contributors and the diversity of skills, experiences, cultures, and opinions they bring to the projects and communities they participate in.

Every one of Google's open source projects and communities are inclusive environments, based on treating all individuals respectfully, regardless of gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disabilities, neurodiversity, physical appearance, body size, ethnicity, nationality, race, age, religion, or similar personal characteristic.

We value diverse opinions, but we value respectful behavior more.

Respectful behavior includes:

    Being considerate, kind, constructive, and helpful.
    Not engaging in demeaning, discriminatory, harassing, hateful, sexualized, or physically threatening behavior, speech, and imagery.
    Not engaging in unwanted physical contact.

Some Google open source projects may adopt an explicit project code of conduct, which may have additional detailed expectations for participants. Most of those projects will use our modified Contributor Covenant. Resolve peacefully

We do not believe that all conflict is necessarily bad; healthy debate and disagreement often yields positive results. However, it is never okay to be disrespectful.

If you see someone behaving disrespectfully, you are encouraged to address the behavior directly with those involved. Many issues can be resolved quickly and easily, and this gives people more control over the outcome of their dispute. If you are unable to resolve the matter for any reason, or if the behavior is threatening or harassing, report it. We are dedicated to providing an environment where participants feel welcome and safe. Reporting problems

Some Google open source projects may adopt a project-specific code of conduct. In those cases, a Google employee will be identified as the Project Steward, who will receive and handle reports of code of conduct violations. In the event that a project hasn’t identified a Project Steward, you can report problems by emailing opensource@google.com.

We will investigate every complaint, but you may not receive a direct response. We will use our discretion in determining when and how to follow up on reported incidents, which may range from not taking action to permanent expulsion from the project and project-sponsored spaces. We will notify the accused of the report and provide them an opportunity to discuss it before any action is taken. The identity of the reporter will be omitted from the details of the report supplied to the accused. In potentially harmful situations, such as ongoing harassment or threats to anyone's safety, we may take action without notice.

This document was adapted from the IndieWeb? Code of Conduct. "

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https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md

Code of Conduct

    We are committed to providing a friendly, safe and welcoming environment for all, regardless of level of experience, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, personal appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, age, religion, nationality, or other similar characteristic.
    Please avoid using overtly sexual aliases or other nicknames that might detract from a friendly, safe and welcoming environment for all.
    Please be kind and courteous. There’s no need to be mean or rude.
    Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every design or implementation choice carries a trade-off and numerous costs. There is seldom a right answer.
    Please keep unstructured critique to a minimum. If you have solid ideas you want to experiment with, make a fork and see how it works.
    We will exclude you from interaction if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. We interpret the term “harassment” as including the definition in the Citizen Code of Conduct; if you have any lack of clarity about what might be included in that concept, please read their definition. In particular, we don’t tolerate behavior that excludes people in socially marginalized groups.
    Private harassment is also unacceptable. No matter who you are, if you feel you have been or are being harassed or made uncomfortable by a community member, please contact one of the channel ops or any of the Lemmy moderation team immediately. Whether you’re a regular contributor or a newcomer, we care about making this community a safe place for you and we’ve got your back.
    Likewise any spamming, trolling, flaming, baiting or other attention-stealing behavior is not welcome.

Message the Moderation Team on Mastodon

Email The Moderation Team Moderation

These are the policies for upholding our community’s standards of conduct. If you feel that a thread needs moderation, please contact the Lemmy moderation team .

    Remarks that violate the Lemmy standards of conduct, including hateful, hurtful, oppressive, or exclusionary remarks, are not allowed. (Cursing is allowed, but never targeting another user, and never in a hateful manner.)
    Remarks that moderators find inappropriate, whether listed in the code of conduct or not, are also not allowed.
    Moderators will first respond to such remarks with a warning, at the same time the offending content will likely be removed whenever possible.
    If the warning is unheeded, the user will be “kicked,” i.e., kicked out of the communication channel to cool off.
    If the user comes back and continues to make trouble, they will be banned, i.e., indefinitely excluded.
    Moderators may choose at their discretion to un-ban the user if it was a first offense and they offer the offended party a genuine apology.
    If a moderator bans someone and you think it was unjustified, please take it up with that moderator, or with a different moderator, in private. Complaints about bans in-channel are not allowed.
    Moderators are held to a higher standard than other community members. If a moderator creates an inappropriate situation, they should expect less leeway than others.

In the Lemmy community we strive to go the extra step to look out for each other. Don’t just aim to be technically unimpeachable, try to be your best self. In particular, avoid flirting with offensive or sensitive issues, particularly if they’re off-topic; this all too often leads to unnecessary fights, hurt feelings, and damaged trust; worse, it can drive people away from the community entirely.

And if someone takes issue with something you said or did, resist the urge to be defensive. Just stop doing what it was they complained about and apologize. Even if you feel you were misinterpreted or unfairly accused, chances are good there was something you could’ve communicated better — remember that it’s your responsibility to make others comfortable. Everyone wants to get along and we are all here first and foremost because we want to talk about cool technology. You will find that people will be eager to assume good intent and forgive as long as you earn their trust.

The enforcement policies listed above apply to all official Lemmy venues; including git repositories under github.com/LemmyNet?/lemmy and yerbamate.dev/LemmyNet?/lemmy, the Matrix channel; and all instances under lemmy.ml. For other projects adopting the Rust Code of Conduct, please contact the maintainers of those projects for enforcement. If you wish to use this code of conduct for your own project, consider explicitly mentioning your moderation policy or making a copy with your own moderation policy so as to avoid confusion.

Adapted from the Rust Code of Conduct, which is based on the Node.js Policy on Trolling as well as the Contributor Covenant v1.3.0.

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 "Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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meowfly 3 days ago [–]

I'm very much convinced that one should never admit a mistake on social media after a dogpile. I think there is too much bad faith for a Mea Culpa option to even work. Apologies work well in smaller circles because an apology implies a correction in behavior that's necessary for those around you to trust you again.

In social media people are signalling they don't like your behavior but they don't actually care about you individually.

If Twitter really wants to fix this they should make it against the rules to screenshot or share deleted tweets. It will be much harder to dogpile after someone deletes their tweet if people can't just keep resharing the offending tweet for likes.

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tunesmith 6 days ago [–]

I've always liked the idea of starting a community that has two rules in its discussion threads: no cynicism/fatalism and no snark. It's just a silly thought exercise and probably wouldn't work, but it's fun to think about. It seems like both of those get in the way of good discussion.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/NeutralPolitics/

1. Comment Rule 1: Discourteous or hostile to others.

Be courteous to other users. Name calling, demeaning, or otherwise being rude or hostile to another user will get your comment or submission removed. 2. Comment Rule 2: No sources.

Source your facts. If you're claiming something to be true, you need to back it up with a qualified source. 3. Comment Rule 3: No substantive content.

Be substantive. NeutralPolitics? is a serious discussion based subreddit. We do not allow bare expressions of opinion, low effort one-liner comments, jokes, memes, off topic replies, or pejorative name calling. 4. Comment Rule 4: Addressing person, not argument.

Address the arguments, not the person. The subject of your sentence should be "the evidence" or "this source" or some other noun directly related to the topic of conversation. "You" statements are suspect. 5. Post A: Doesn't ask a specific political question.

We do not allow overly broad questions, solicitations of pure opinion, surveys, requests to explain public opinion or media coverage, posts about other subreddits, or meta posts. 6. Post Rule B: Not neutrally framed.

The post must not be inflammatory, editorialized, leading towards a particular answer, a statement of opinion, or a request to critique your theory. 7. Post Rule C: Doesn't outline issue.

Give more than just a headline. Provide some background information. 8. Post Rule D: Doesn't provide sources.

Statements of fact must cite qualified sources. Nothing is "common knowledge." 9. Post E: Not a good starting point for discussion.

The purpose of this forum is to discuss issues. We do not allow polls, surveys or requests for fact checking. 10. Post Rule G: Request for speculation.

If the question cannot be answered with facts — which includes any that are phrased in the future tense (What will/would/could happen?) — then it's not appropriate for NeutralPolitics?.

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not a discussion forum but:

http://handbook.enspiral.com/agreements/personal_conduct.html http://handbook.enspiral.com/agreements/harassment_and_abuse.html

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https://lobste.rs/about

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" Code of Conduct

Adapted from Contributor Covenant v1.4 Our Pledge

In the interest of fostering an open and welcoming environment, we as contributors and maintainers pledge to making participation in our project and our community a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of age, body size, disability, ethnicity, gender identity and expression, level of experience, nationality, personal appearance, race, religion, or sexual identity and orientation. Our Standards

Examples of behavior that contributes to creating a positive environment include:

    Using welcoming and inclusive language
    Being respectful of differing viewpoints and experiences
    Gracefully accepting constructive criticism
    Focusing on what is best for the community
    Showing empathy towards other community members

Examples of unacceptable behavior by participants include:

    The use of sexualized language or imagery and unwelcome sexual attention or advances
    Trolling, insulting/derogatory comments, and personal or political attacks
    Public or private harassment
    Publishing others' private information, such as a physical or electronic address, without explicit permission
    Other conduct which could reasonably be considered inappropriate in a professional setting" -- https://plforums.org/about

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https://docs.tildes.net/policies/terms-of-use

https://docs.tildes.net/policies/privacy-policy

" Content restrictions

Do not post content that breaks the law.

Do not post spam, or send spam as unsolicited messages.

Do not post links to viruses, malware, or other content that may damage the devices of people that follow the link.

Do not post content that violates the code of conduct. " -- https://docs.tildes.net/policies/terms-of-use

" Tildes Code of Conduct Page last updated: August 8, 2019 (view history) Contents

    Self-promotion
    Multiple accounts

Don't act like an asshole and routinely make other people's experiences—or lives—worse. Almost all of the restrictions on how you can use Tildes are just more-explicit versions of this basic guideline. In general, as long as you treat others with basic civility and try to contribute in good faith, you will be welcome on Tildes.

Do not maliciously impersonate someone else's identity (real world or online)

Do not maliciously attempt to counteract other users' attempts to delete or edit their content, such as by deliberately re-posting content they want to be deleted.

Do not incite or encourage harm against people, including by posting hate speech or threats.

Do not post anyone's sensitive personal information (related to either their real world or online identity) with malicious intent. Self-promotion

If you have your own site/project/channel/etc. that you'd like to share on Tildes, that's generally fine (in moderation), but it shouldn't be the primary reason that you post on the site. Tildes is a community, not a free advertising platform. Sharing your own content is welcome as long as you're involved in the community, but don't just treat Tildes as a source of an audience. Multiple accounts

You may register and use multiple Tildes accounts, but do not:

    Use additional accounts for the purpose of deceiving others, such as by replying to your own posts from different accounts to create the illusion of support.
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https://zz.reddit.com/r/aww/ has a pre-filled message in the comment box:

" Remember:

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some CoC? suggestions:

(note: i am not agreeing with the following, i am merely recording it for later study!)

https://www.fast.ai/2020/10/28/code-of-conduct/

" One challenge is that the JupyterCon? CoC? is based on Django’s, which has very general guidelines such as “Be welcoming” and “Be considerate”, which can be taken by different people in different ways. The NumFOCUS? code is much clearer, with a specific list of “Unacceptable behaviors”, although that list includes “Other unethical or unprofessional conduct”, which is troublesome, since “unprofessional” can be catch-all gate-keeping mechanism for whatever those in the “profession” deem to be against their particular norms, and which those outside the in-group (like me) can’t be reasonably be expected to know.

Some of these issues are discussed in an excellent presentation from Valerie Aurora, who explains that “a code of conduct should contain” “behaviors which many people think are acceptable but are unacceptable in your community”, and that “If you want to list good behaviors or describe the community ideal of behavior, do it in a separate document”, and in particular “Do not require politeness or other forms of ‘proper’ behavior”. Pretty much all of the JupyterCon? code of conduct is a list of forms of ‘proper’ behavior (e.g. “be friendly”, “be welcoming”, “be respectful”, etc.) While broader and more subjective values, such as “be kind”, can be useful as part of a conference’s values, it is less clear if or even how they should be enforced via a code of conduct. "

"excellent presentation from Valerie Aurora" (his opinion, not mine, i am merely recording the link) slides are linked: https://files.frameshiftconsulting.com/codeofconducttraining.pdf

the poster also recomends something from https://adainitiative.org/ presumably https://adainitiative.org/continue-our-work/conference-policies/ and https://geekfeminism.wikia.org/wiki/Conference_anti-harassment/Policy_resources

the poster liked some parts of: https://numfocus.org/code-of-conduct/response-and-enforcement-events-meetups (like, that there was a defined process, which involves telling the accused what the accusation was; and that there is a narrow list of 'donts' rather than a general requerst for 'be kind'), but doesnt like that the instructions for approaching the accused seem to presume guilt

some suggestions from a related discussion [1]:

"Does it allow anonymous accusations? Is the accused allowed to know the charges against them, before a finding of guilt is rendered? Is there a presumption of innocence? Is the accused allowed to have a trusted third party - one who knows the rules of the game - to advocate on their behalf? Who, exactly, is responsible for deciding matters of fact vs matters of "law"? Is there an appeals process to fix possibly incorrect decisions? "

(note: the same commenter later expands on "deciding matters of fact vs matters of "law"" to note that matters of fact should not be decided by the legislature, at least)

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https://help.medium.com/hc/en-us/articles/360006362473

" Medium Help Center Writing Distribution

Medium’s Distribution Guidelines: everything writers need to know

Updated: October 2, 2020

We value quality content — fresh ideas, unique perspectives, varied voices, smart thinking — and believe readers do, too. Here are the elements our editorial teams consider in evaluating story quality:

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http://legal.parler.com/documents/guidelines.pdf

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" a) Sure, there’s freedom of speech. Anyone who wants it can go start their own blog. On Yog’s board, Yog’s whim is law. b) Yog is an ancient ghod of chaos and evil. And he doesn’t like people very much. c) Moderation is a subjective art, and the moderator is always right. d) The moderator may have minions. They need to have a private area where they keep the buckets of Thorazine and the cold-frosty bottles of cow snot. e) The minions speak with the voice of Yog. Yog backs his minions up. f) There is always someone awake, and in charge, when Yog isn’t around in person. The minions know who the Duty Yog is. g) If someone starts off as a spammer, troll, or flamer, he is a spammer, troll, or flamer forever and is liable to instant deletion/banning with no recourse and no appeal. h) If the moderator ever needs inspiration, he can re-read Jonathan Edwards’ Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God and recall that the posters are sinners and he is Ghod. i) Rules? In a knife fight? Yog and his minions have standards, but they don’t need to tell the posters, lest some of them attempt to game the system. Attempting to game the system is, all on its own, a deletable offense. j) ALL CAPS posts are deleted on sight, unread. Mostly ALL CAPS POSTS are ALL CAPS. k) Anyone who doesn’t space after punctuation marks is insane, and can be deleted/banned on sight. l) Personal attacks against Yog and his minions are ignored. Personal attacks against anyone else are deletable on sight. " -- https://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/010445.html

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@TimBeiko? and 4 others I think a "code of conduct" is important, but the core devs should also have an understanding of their responsibilities to the community. I think Ameen is a good representative to have. If you censor him, you just keep doing that groupthink thing and avoidance of conflict.

Hudson Jameson @hudsonjameson Replying to @hughlang

@VladZamfir? and 4 others I agree! I don't think we need a formal CoC?, but the unspoken one we have of civil decorum and no trolling was violated today. That doesn't mean Ameen will be banned from calls though. 9:57 AM · Mar 6, 2020·Twitter Web App "

-- https://twitter.com/hudsonjameson/status/1235987848207249409

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here's a list of some things that trolls etc. purportedly do:

https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

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"...discriminates against people for immutable characteristics of their person"

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/twofussyblokesupcyclinglounge/

" Group Rules from the Admins We're all in this together to create a welcoming environment. Let's treat everyone with respect. Healthy debates are natural, but kindness is required. We can all agree that spam is an undesirable distraction. What qualifies as spam? In general, if it feels like spam, it’s probably spam. Spam includes promotional materials and excessive self promotion. Please be sure your thoughts are expressed in the vein of friendship rather than antagonism. Let’s make this a safe space for people from all backgrounds, identities, and beliefs. We won’t tolerate threats, harassment, lewdness, hate speech etc. Being part of this group requires mutual trust. Authentic, expressive discussions make groups great, but may also be sensitive and private. What's shared in the group should stay in the group. Mindful of the above, let’s have fun and not take ourselves too seriously! Be curious, experiment, share ideas, and take the time to brighten someone’s day. " ---

https://help.clubhouse.io/hc/en-us/community/posts/360059501212-Community-Guidelines

" Welcome to the Clubhouse Community! We built this community as a place for Clubhouse users to communicate with each other, to share the amazing ways you are using the platform, and to learn best practices and cool tips & tricks from one another. Powered by you

We would like to emphasize that this is a community forum, and it is primarily designed for users to have conversations with each other—not for users to contact the team. While Clubhouse team members post on the forums relatively frequently, (these users have a special badge that says “Housemate” on their user profiles), they will not respond to every post, and community users should not expect that their post will necessarily receive a response from a Clubhouse employee.

If you would like to get in contact with the Clubhouse team, or if you are having an urgent issue with your workspace, we suggest that you use the in-app support by clicking on the ? on the top right of Clubhouse. Be nice and respectful

We welcome and encourage fruitful debate and conversation, but please be sure your thoughts are expressed in the vein of friendship rather than antagonism. In addition, let’s make this a safe space for people from all backgrounds, identities, and beliefs. We won’t tolerate threats, harassment, lewdness, hate speech, or other displays of bigotry. Keep things tidy

Always remember to search before you post. Someone may have already answered your question in the past few weeks!

Also:

    Make sure you start your post in the correct category.
    Use the Like button to show you agree!
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Stay on topic

Try to stay on topic in a given thread and category. Conversations will take a naturally winding course, but please ensure to not take a thread in a completely new direction. Similarly, if you see a recent thread (in the last week or so) covering the topic you’d like to post about, comment within that thread rather than creating a new one. Flag issues

    While the Clubhouse team will moderate the forum, we also want you, as community members, to be aware and feel empowered to flag anything which you think breaks these rules, or does not have a place in the forum.
    Please do not reply to things which shouldn’t be in the community. Replying gives the author validation and encourages bad behavior. Instead, please just flag it.
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    Please note that new posts are not previewed by moderators before being posted. Moderators and site operators take no responsibility for any content posted by the community.

No spam, please

We can all agree that spam is an undesirable distraction. What qualifies as spam? In general, if it feels like spam, it’s probably spam. Spam includes promotional materials and excessive self promotion.

If you see a post that looks like spam, please flag it and moderators will assess next steps. Thank you! Be transparent

Let’s be transparent and honest with our intentions, identity, and behavior in the community. Please use your real name with your account when possible, and never intentionally attempt to mislead other members. This is a collective of peers working together and collaboration is so much richer when everyone comes to it with integrity and clarity. Stay quirky

Mindful of the above, let’s have fun and not take ourselves too seriously! Be curious, experiment, share ideas, and take the time to bring joy to someone’s day!

Terms

Please be advised that the use of the Clubhouse Community forums still falls under our Terms of Service as well as our Privacy Policy. "

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" The purpose of this site is intellectual curiosity, which is not compatible with political battle. Some political overlap is fine and inevitable, but when accounts go way beyond "some overlap", we ban them. "

" It's not the case that politics can't be discussed here. Many HN stories have political overlap. At the same time, we can't allow all political posts and we have to moderate flamewars, or HN will turn into a political site, which is against its mandate (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html). " -- https://hn.algolia.com/?query=political%20overlap%20by:dang&dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment

" It looks like you've been using HN primarily for political and national battle, which is not what this site is for. Some political overlap is inevitable (https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by:dang%20political%20overlap&...), and occasionally commenting on political topics is ok, but when you cross the line into doing that primarily (which is the test we apply: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by:dang%20primarily%20test&sor...), you're violating the intended use of the site, and we ban accounts that do that.

Intellectual curiosity is not a battle emotion. Would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use HN as intended? "

-- https://hn.algolia.com/?query=primarily%20test%20by:dang&sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0

" I believe that you hold your views in good faith, but the way you've presented them in this thread—calling the views you disagree with "fake news" and accusing others of having "fake accounts"—are against the site guidelines. The provocative rhetoric you've used in places, such as "prison cells" in referring to HK, is also against the site guidelines because it's flamebait. If your posts include provocations like this, they're guaranteed to start a flamewar, and that's just what we're trying to avoid here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Your account had also been breaking the site guidelines by using HN primarily for political and national arguments. That's against the rules, but I see you've already begun correcting it with https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20686964, which is good. For more about how we apply this test, see https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by:dang%20primarily%20test&sor... and https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by:dang%20political%20overlap&... if interested.

I appreciate the difficulty you face, and that anyone faces, when presenting a minority view on a highly charged topic. HN's population, though international, is largely Western, and that inevitably determines the majority view on China/Hong Kong. You clearly have a different perspective, which I assume is because your experiences are different from those of HN's mostly Western readers. That means you have value to add here, as anyone with a diverse experience does. But it also puts you in a tough position, because even a slight provocation is going to trigger an avalanche of frustration from others, leading to a destructive flamewar. People find it exceedingly difficult to receive information that falls, let's say, more than one standard deviation from their perspective. Outlying information creates discomfort which is difficult to contain. It doesn't matter that it's true; if anything, that makes it harder to contain. Uncontained discomfort boils over into counter-provocation and accusations of bad faith. We all have this problem.

That puts you in a tough position on HN. Your options are: not to comment, to comment in frustration and provoke a flamewar, or to comment neutrally and resist the temptation to lash out at the majority. Only the latter is able to communicate the value of what you have to share, but it's not easy. It takes patience and inner calm.

Yes, this means there is a greater burden on one who holds a minority or counterintuitive view. This isn't fair. But it's the way that mass communication works. If the goal is to communicate—to learn, rather than do battle—then the one who knows more, who has a truth others don't have, has a greater responsibility. If you don't rise to that responsibility, you end up discrediting that truth in the eyes of the majority, which makes the situation worse, even though lashing out provides a little temporary relief. I've written about this principle over the years because most of us find it counterintuitive.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14460989

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10368209

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14634368

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... "

" dang

Many articles posted to HN have a political dimension. We don't exclude them because if we did, the site would become less intellectually interesting. The idea of HN is to optimize for what's intellectually interesting. Moreover, it's impossible to define "political" precisely. Basically everything is political somehow.
2 years agoparenton: The High Cost of Low-level Crime in San Francisco

On the other hand, unmoderated political discussion soon becomes flamewar. We can't allow that either because if we did, flames would consume the site and destroy the community. And that would also be less intellectually interesting. https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by:dang%20scorched%20earth&sor...

So we allow the topics, but try to prevent the hotter discussions from taking their natural course into, basically, war and rage. We want to avoid the latter not primarily for ethical reasons, but because it leads to informational heat death, which is boring. How to handle this? Lots of ways, but also: badly. We do an uneven job of it and don't know how to do much better. Pretty much any thread that gets into these topics makes me cringe. It's shocking and painful how awful people are to each other when they're sure they're right. Curiosity, incidentally, doesn't come with that certainty.

One thing we try to do is ensure that articles with political overlap have at least some angle that isn't purely political, and that they contain substantial new information. That provides fiber, if you like, to slow down thought processes. This supports better discussion, or at least not such awful discussion.

Another thing we do is urge people not to post comments that abandon curiosity in order to fight enemies. It's not actually so hard to tell these apart. Any comment with a glimmer of curiosity has a tentative quality that remains open to new information and what others have to say. Why wouldn't it? Curiosity, by listening, may get gratified. This is very different from battle comments, which weaponize language and emotion (on the internet, that means snark) in the service of what the commenter feels is worth fighting for. For curiosity, it's important to remain open; for battle, it's important to fasten your armor, cede nothing, and be closed. Once you've triumphed over evil, maybe you can open up again. Battle may be important, but it's inimical to curiosity. Curiosity is what we're optimizing for, so we moderate against battle no matter what it's for or against.

Another thing we do is down-regulate indignation however we can. Indignation is the strongest force on the internet, including on HN, and the most hostile to curiosity. Perhaps you think we shouldn't, because indignation has some value? Don't worry; no matter what we do, it will always be the biggest force here. Human nature plus internet equals indignation.

Lastly, another thing we do is ban accounts that use HN primarily for battle. Note that word primarily; it's there because of an empirical observation. Accounts that post curiously about lots of different things and occasionally get into a political argument are fine. Maybe we have to ask them not to cross the line into unkindness—but we wouldn't ban them for that. Accounts that primarily use HN to fight opponents are a different species. The first are net positive even if they occasionally burn some health points. The second are net negative, and not in a small way—in a curiosity-based ecosystem, they're an invasive species. This has turned out to be a fair and at least partially objective distinction that is suitable for moderation. If you watch closely what we do when we ban accounts for political battle, it should be clear that this is the test being applied. https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by:dang%20primarily%20test&sor... dang

It looks like you've been using HN primarily for nationalistic political comments. That breaks the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Could you please review those and use HN as intended, i.e. for intellectual curiosity, from now on?
2 years agoparenton: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

The test we apply is whether an account has crossed the line of using HN primarily for political battle. If that is the case, we ban the account, regardless of which politics or nation they're fighting for or against. That is because these battles have a way of consuming everything if allowed to, and therefore must not be allowed to.

Further explanations of how we moderate this are here for anyone who wants more: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by:dang%20primarily%20test&sor...

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 dang on Nov 22, 2019 | parent | favorite | on: The Making of Margaret Atwood

How to handle politics on HN is a hard question. We've worked out an answer over the years that derives from the site guidelines, is not rooted in any particular politics, and seems to have proven stable.

To see why it's a hard question, look at the two extremes of the solution space. One would be to ban every topic that you find politically provocative—i.e. that anybody finds politically provocative, since there's no reason to privilege one user over others. That would exclude most stories that get posted here. Certainly everything about economics, history, philosophy, literature, city planning, etc., but also most stories about business and industry. Even many stories that appear purely technical would have to go. Probably everything would, once people got done being provoked by what remained. As some are fond of pointing out, everything is political when you get down to it.

The other extreme would be to allow every political topic and all escalations and flamewars. That would turn this place into scorched earth and kill it as a site for intellectual curiosity, which is its mandate (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html).

Since both extremes are impossible for HN, we need to draw a line somewhere. Where should it be? If we're optimizing for intellectual curiosity, we have to cast a wide net, because curiosity likes to meander. Any topic that supports intellectual curiosity is ok, even if it has political overlap. The topics that aren't ok are the ones that are (a) purely political, (b) purely sensational, (c) have inevitably turned into flamewars in the past. (If a thread does turn into a flamewar, we moderate it, but that isn't necessarily an on-topicness issue of the submission.)

What about stories that don't gratify your curiosity? Well, that's always the case, in the sense that no one likes every story and no story is liked by everyone. It suffices to gratify curiosity for some segment of the audience. If you run into one that doesn't work for you, there are plenty of others to read. If you run out, the 'past' link in the top bar is guaranteed to find popular threads that you missed. And if a submission really breaks the site guidelines, you can flag it. What's not ok is to start posting comments in the thread from a place of provocation rather than curiosity. That's not in the spirit of HN and the guidelines ask you not to.

All these concepts require interpretation, so any line we draw is fuzzy. Other moderators might make different calls. But the OP is obviously on topic by that standard, and while I understand how it can appear that we apply the rules selectively, I'd caution against leaping to a belief in moderation bias motivated by secret political preferences (inevitably opposed to your own of course! https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...). All political sides get moderated and/or not moderated at times. When it comes to politics, the mods do something for everyone to dislike—which unfortunately distorts how people perceive moderation.

If you see a case that violates this standard, the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. We don't come close to seeing everything on HN. The second-likeliest explanation is that we thought it over and came up with some reason that is based on the site guidelines. Sometimes that leads to counterintuitive places. People are always welcome to ask.

If that's not enough, there are plenty of prior explanations: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que.... Take a look, and if there's still something I haven't addressed, I'd be curious to know what it is.

pksdjfikkkkdsff on Nov 23, 2019 [–]

Thank you for taking the time trying to explain!

Obviously, I disagree with many things about the approach HN has taken, but of course it is your site, you can do as you want.

For starters, if you say people can just skip things that don't satisfy their curiosity, I don't see why the same wouldn't apply to political controversies. I can understand if you want to moderate the "root articles" (the once that are listed on the homepage), but why do you care about the comments? If people discuss something, obviously it interests them (strikes their curiosity). What does it matter if they make a 10000 comment thread about it? I think you have some sort of algorithmic counter measures against long threads, which does nothing but enrage (presumably based on some heuristic PG once made, when he felt long comment threads signal flame wars)

Ultimately it seems to me all about the people you attract here to vote on things. I've just tried to read that article about Atwood, and it is entirely too long-winded for me. If HN had been founded by some famous literary professor, you would probably get only submissions like that, and nothing about technology or science. But it was founded by PG and now it is associated with YCombinator, so it draws a different crowd.

Just saying I don't think the "curiosity" rule is really what makes HN, it is the people you manage to attract.

And to that I personally can say, I wouldn't mind some other user ripping into me in comments for some political or other reasons. I do mind HN itself telling me I am not wanted here , which it does in so many ways.

Of course, again, that is your right to do, as it is your site. It just makes me sad (unsurprisingly), having been on HN since the early days. And ultimately it does seem to boil down to political opinions, even if you don't consciously target certain opinions above others, as you claim.

dang on Nov 28, 2019 [–]

It matters what people post in the comments because the comments very much affect what sort of people HN manages to attract. You seem to be treating these two things as independent, but they are intensely interdependent.

Since the value of HN is its community, we have to regulate the comments carefully. The main tool for doing that is https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Not to do so would cause HN to suffer the default fate of internet communities, which tend eventually to become burnt-out husks of their former selves. The idea here is to stave that off for as long as we can: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....

That's why we keep asking you to follow the site guidelines. It's not just because your individual comments get better when you do that. It's also because the feedback loops involved (the effects of comment quality on the community) are large and existential for HN.

dang 9 months ago

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You've been using HN primarily for political and ideological battle. That's not what the site is for, and we ban accounts that do this, because it destroys the curious conversation that the site is for. We've warned and asked you about this several times already, and you've continued to do it.

Some political overlap is inevitable [1], but political battle will soon take the site over if we allow it to, so we don't allow it to. The reference to fire in the word 'flamewar' is not by accident. These things consume and destroy an internet forum the way that fire does.

It isn't that the issues you're posting about aren't important. On the contrary, they're more important than most of what gets discussed here, like someone's basketball hoop side project, for example, currently on the front page [2].

The issue is the kind of site Hacker News is trying to be. We're trying to be a site for intellectual curiosity [3]. That means a place where smaller, more obscure, more delicate topics get a chance to flourish. It's not possible to be both that and a forum where people bash their enemies about current affairs.

If you want further explanation about how we handle this on HN and why, I've written about it extensively—see [1] and [4]. In the meantime, you're contributing (unintentionally, I realize) to destroying this place for its intended purpose, and we need you to stop doing that.

[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?query=political%20overlap%20by:dang&...

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22898653

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

[4] https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by:dang%20primarily%20test&sor...

p.s. I flagged your comment for a different reason: the first sentence breaks the site guideline against name-calling: When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."

Other of your recent comments have been devolving into the flamewar style also. That tends to be what happens when people use the site primarily to fight political battles.

LB232323 9 months ago [–]

I don't have an anti-Amazon agenda to push, even though they deserve criticism. However, we can't ignore the fact that corporations and the rights of workers are both economic and political at once. This whole article is about a collective labor action. Is this journalism not an example of a political battle that most of us, as workers, are forced to confront? Why not just delete the entire post?

dang 9 months ago [–]

My comment is about a pattern of behavior on the site, not about this specific thread. Note the word "primarily" in there. That's a critical word. Lots of explanation about that at https://hn.algolia.com/?query=primarily%20test%20by:dang&sor...

The question of this specific thread is a different one. First of all, a story having political overlap does not make it off topic for HN. That depends on how well it serves the site mandate, which is intellectual curiosity. Lots of explanation about that at https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....

One of the most important things for intellectual curiosity is how repetitive a topic is. The more repetitive it is, the less curious. Curiosity withers under repetition. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

When there's a major ongoing topic (MOT), HN gets flooded with many follow-up submissions about that same overall story. The test we apply in such cases is to ask whether a submission contains significant new information (SNI): https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....

When a follow-up story doesn't contain significant new information, it falls on the repetitive side and tends to produce repetitive, generic discussions. Those are worse for intellectual curiosity: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que....

Worse, repetitive and generic discussions tend to devolve into flamewars. It's as if the mind resorts to conflict to amuse itself when there isn't any material for curiosity to play with. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

The key thing to look for is whether the comments in such a thread are about the specific new information contained in the new article, or whether they could be copy/pasted from or into any other recent thread about the MOT. HN thrives on diffs. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... Basically the question is: where's the SNI?

If anyone doubts that the current topic is a MOT, I pasted a dozen links to major recent threads here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902685. Look through them and you'll find plenty of generic discussion.

All: if there's any reasoning here that's wrong or unclear, please have a look at the above links. Then, if there's still some question that hasn't been answered, I'd love to know what it is. These principles have built up over many years of operating Hacker News. The same situations and questions come up repeatedly, and you'll notice that as we've posted explanations over the years, the answers have slowly been converging. That's why I'm linking so often to past explanations: in addition to giving readers more information, I want them to see how the answers have developed and why they are the way they are.

The question of how to treat politics on HN is a hard puzzle. It has constraints that make a solution nearly impossible. Worse, if a solution isn't possible, the site will destroy itself. My answer here (plus the links) is our best attempt at a solution so far. If anyone thinks they have a better solution, I'd love to hear what it is—but please familiarize yourself with the material first, because if it's something simple like "just ban politics" or "just leave the threads alone", I've answered many times already why that won't work.

LB232323 9 months ago [–]

I see what you mean, many arguments on internet forums rehash the same ideological points over and over in a repetitive "religious war". I think the flagged user had a fair criticism despite the majority of posts and overall tone defending Amazon. Maybe the bias towards defending corporations is a product of corporate astroturfing. Maybe it is because white collar workers (most tech workers) would rather not acknowledge the uncomfortable truth of Amazon's anti-union and anti-worker's rights treatment of their blue collar workers.

It is uncomfortable to acknowledge that the businesses we rely on exploit workers and abuse them. It is far more comfortable to "stay asleep" and preoccupy the mind with quirky intellectual diversions and fascinating little rabbit holes. In these times of economic crises, these sorts of pro-worker articles and sentiments increase dramatically. I support the author of this article despite the comforting detractors who would rather rationalize their treatment. The prevailing argument in this discussion is that the warehouse workers are ungrateful and too critical of their corporate masters, and this I find frankly to be disgusting.

dang 9 months ago [–]

I'm definitely not arguing that the GP comment was an unfair criticism. I have zero issue with the case the user's making. The issue I'm worried about, because it's my job, is what kind of site Hacker News is supposed to be. You can't judge this by looking at posts in isolation, because no single post affects the kind of site HN is. But patterns of posts affect it very strongly.

HN is either a site for intellectual curiosity or a site for political battle. It can't be both, for the same reason that you can't have a tank battle in a flower garden or a museum.

LB232323 9 months ago [–]

I see your point, and I personally enjoy most posts that are not political and satisfy my intellectual curiosity. Maybe the middle ground is articles such as these that explore new and interesting topics (internet organized labor action) while delivering information that advances the rights of the vast majority of human beings on planet Earth (workers).

dang 9 months ago [–]

A few minutes with HN Search gave me these threads about Amazon warehouse workers. I'm sure there have been others.

I do not mean this as a dismissal of the issue. It's an important issue that workers be treated fairly. The question I'm talking about is much smaller and narrower: what do we do on Hacker News with MOTs (major ongoing topics) like this one? They will dominate the site entirely if allowed to (along with indignation-inducing posts generally). We can't simply let them go unmoderated—that would turn HN into a completely different kind of site, and not the kind that people currently come here for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22900119

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22868645

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22868054

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22770092

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22763057

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22759575

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22738592

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22736512

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22733938

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22729819

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22647605

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22597200

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22167858

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21939451

dang on Dec 8, 2016

parent favorite on: U.S. Supreme Court Curbs Excessive Design Patent D...

(All: sorry for the offtopic digression, but this thread was bound to be about this whether I posted the below or not. There are fine comments about the Supreme Court ruling elsewhere on this page, and you can always click [-] to collapse a subthread you don't want to read.)

HN has been running a no-politics-for-a-week 'experiment' [1]. Although it hasn't been a week, I think we've learned as much from it as we're going to, so it can be over now.

Among what we learned is that it's impossible to define 'politics' with any consensus because that question is itself highly political, and that HN is at its best when it can meander through all the (intellectually) interesting things, some of which inevitably have political dimensions. The current story is a good example: it's not apolitical, but it isn't purely political either, and it's clearly on topic for HN.

In other words, the existing guidelines have it about right (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html), so carry on as normal.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13108404. I put 'experiment' in quotes because people understand that word differently. We mean 'trying something for a little while, just to see what will happen'.

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https://buynothingproject.org/about/mission-and-principles/?fbclid=IwAR2bT0SzBP3_m-oOKnhcaphdlStH3qUcYGe9kLMhCliYZTORbpNSP79St98 https://buynothingproject.org/about/faqs/?fbclid=IwAR3DILESjTJA6z7w_Kh88mw_8E8vKYXrebwSxclQszAXJYVSvaI4JXMp6fo https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XygcZLZJvPzSt2BQYGoPmsLLIKb04DvphWWesBKZoXc/edit https://buynothingproject.org/community-agreement/ https://buynothingproject.org/the-fine-print-2/?fbclid=IwAR1OhOxwNKT409WiK2aIlZxG0o-SooO29hvhRHs8BaqNH3ksEmbouLNUz_g

see also: https://buynothingproject.org/start-a-group/

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https://www.reddit.com/r/thingsapp/

r/thingsapp Rules 1. No irrelevant posts or memes 2. No mirrors or torrents 3. No pornography 4. No malicious content

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https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2021/01/19/free-speech-in-2021

" If you abuse our service to break the law, we will not only cooperate, we will turn you in ourselves." "Finally, if you’re a racist, we’re not on your side....We do not want you to host your garbage here...We will kick you off the instant you give us a reason. We’re not the right service for you."

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Nextdoor:

Good neighbor pledge

Be helpful Share this space in a constructive way. Be kind, not judgmental, in your conversations.

Be respectful You're speaking to your real neighbors. Strong communities are built on strong relationships.

Do not discriminate We do not tolerate racism, hateful language, or discrimination of any kind.

No harmful activity We prohibit any activity that could hurt someone, from scams to physical harm.

Read community guidelines: https://help.nextdoor.com/s/article/community-guidelines?language=en_GB

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https://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/010445.html

" a) Sure, there’s freedom of speech. Anyone who wants it can go start their own blog. On Yog’s board, Yog’s whim is law. b) Yog is an ancient ghod of chaos and evil. And he doesn’t like people very much. c) Moderation is a subjective art, and the moderator is always right. d) The moderator may have minions. They need to have a private area where they keep the buckets of Thorazine and the cold-frosty bottles of cow snot. e) The minions speak with the voice of Yog. Yog backs his minions up. f) There is always someone awake, and in charge, when Yog isn’t around in person. The minions know who the Duty Yog is. g) If someone starts off as a spammer, troll, or flamer, he is a spammer, troll, or flamer forever and is liable to instant deletion/banning with no recourse and no appeal. h) If the moderator ever needs inspiration, he can re-read Jonathan Edwards’ Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God and recall that the posters are sinners and he is Ghod. i) Rules? In a knife fight? Yog and his minions have standards, but they don’t need to tell the posters, lest some of them attempt to game the system. Attempting to game the system is, all on its own, a deletable offense. j) ALL CAPS posts are deleted on sight, unread. Mostly ALL CAPS POSTS are ALL CAPS. k) Anyone who doesn’t space after punctuation marks is insane, and can be deleted/banned on sight. l) Personal attacks against Yog and his minions are ignored. Personal attacks against anyone else are deletable on sight. "

also btw i like how on that blog, in the right hand column, it says "DIRE LEGAL NOTICE"

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twitter:

"We start from a position of assuming that people do not intend to violate our Rules. Unless a violation is so egregious that we must immediately suspend an account, we first try to educate people about our Rules and give them a chance to correct their behavior. We show the violator the offending Tweet(s), explain which Rule was broken, and require them to remove the content before they can Tweet again. If someone repeatedly violates our Rules then our enforcement actions become stronger. This includes requiring violators to remove the Tweet(s) and taking additional actions like verifying account ownership and/or temporarily limiting their ability to Tweet for a set period of time. If someone continues to violate Rules beyond that point then their account may be permanently suspended."

via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23347155

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reddit, circa 2012

" "At reddit we care deeply about not imposing ours or anyone elses’ opinions on how people use the reddit platform. We are adamant about not limiting the ability to use the reddit platform even when we do not ourselves agree with or condone a specific use. We have very few rules here on reddit; no spamming, no cheating, no personal info, nothing illegal, and no interfering the site's functions." " via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23679564

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https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasf*ck/ (i censored the title)

1. This post is not IAF

Things that aren't IAF:

mildly interesting things, kinda interesting things, interesting things

Social media screenshots, or screenshots in general.

No unnecessary sound

Memes, funny things, edgy content

Things that are purely cute

Things that are NSFW

Click bait, "Top 10 best X"

Just because something is old does not inherently make it IAF.

Hold your phone a certain way to see an image, or shake your head to see an image, or light mod/dark mode pictures 2. Proof needed, and not provided.

If your post declares something as fact, please cite a source in the comment section. 3. Uncivil.

We are here to learn and share interesting things. Don't be a jerk. 4. No Gossip or tabloid esque material

This isn't the place for pop culture news/events nor is it a glorified image version of /r/TodayILearned?. 5. No Spam

Don't be a spammer 6. Post doesn't have a descriptive title

Make sure your title is descriptive. Users should be able to know what the post is generally about or if it's a pun they should get the joke after viewing the content of the post. If needed you can add additional information in the comment section.

Titles should not be the only thing interesting about the post.

Title should not "piggy back" off other interesting posts. Example: "I see we're posting about X, well here's my X" 7. Recent/common repost

This is only for reposts that have been posted to /r/interestingasfuck recently or have been posted so often that the majority of users have seen this content (Give it a bit and find something new to post) 8. No text on images

No text on images. This means no social media screenshots, including reddit. The only exceptions are details on a graph/chart or labeling. Telling a story about a person or an event is NOT allowed. This is not /r/todayIlearned in an image format.

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" Dear Advertiser,

In September 2021, Google will introduce a new strike-based system to enforce against advertisers who repeatedly violate Google Ads policies. We will begin implementing the strike-based system on Sep 21, 2021, with a gradual ramp up over a period of 3 months, for the following policies: Enabling dishonest behavior, Unapproved substances, Guns, gun parts and related products, Explosives, Other Weapons, and Tobacco. The policy coverage of the strike-based system will be expanded to add additional policies in phases over time and advertisers will be notified each time new policies are brought within scope of the strike-based system.

Please note that this update does not impact the account suspension procedures for egregious Google Ads policy violations "

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